[COM] Adelaide Oval Redevelopment

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#4441 Post by Goodsy » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:09 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:Even then the Crows don't always sell it out.

I don't see any need for a northern stand. Sure, a Commonwealth Games argument may strengthen the case for it, but then what?
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#4442 Post by SRW » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:22 pm

Capacity isn't a real issue yet or soon - we can seat 53,500 and even Perth's new stadium is only 60,000. When it does become an issue, they can look at augmenting the the Western Stand. The Hill needn't and shouldn't be touched.
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#4443 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:03 am

Capacity isn't an issue?

Have you been under a rock? Adele's concert got 70,000, a stadium record. Which is 16,500 over capacity!
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#4444 Post by Goodsy » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:06 am

[Shuz] wrote:Capacity isn't an issue?

Have you been under a rock? Adele's concert got 70,000, a stadium record. Which is 16,500 over capacity!
53,500 is the seated capacity. You can't sell tickets to stand on the grass during a footy game. They managed to squeeze 80,000 at AAMI for the Robbie Williams concert

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#4445 Post by SouthAussie94 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:01 am

[Shuz] wrote:Capacity isn't an issue?

Have you been under a rock? Adele's concert got 70,000, a stadium record. Which is 16,500 over capacity!
The playing surface at Adelaide oval roughly 16,000 square metres. Assuming you lose 5,000 sq. metres for staging, walkways, etc, you can fit around 38,000 people onto the playing surface. This is 3.5 people per sq. metre which is rated towards the upper limit of safe and comfortable standing capacity. Add the 53,000 seats, and that gives Adelaide oval a theoretical concert capacity of 91,000.

Obviously, there are quite a few assumptions in that. If the stage takes up a larger area, you lose capacity. You may not be able to sell all 53,000 seats for a concert as viewing may be impeded from some. And probably the largest one, if temporary seating is placed onto the playing surface, this would reduce the capacity quite significantly.

All in all, Adele would have come pretty close to having the oval at capacity.
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#4446 Post by crawf » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:18 am

GoodSmackUp wrote:
[Shuz] wrote:Capacity isn't an issue?

Have you been under a rock? Adele's concert got 70,000, a stadium record. Which is 16,500 over capacity!
53,500 is the seated capacity. You can't sell tickets to stand on the grass during a footy game. They managed to squeeze 80,000 at AAMI for the Robbie Williams concert
Not sure if that's correct. The Adele concert is being reported as the biggest concert ever held in SA. The whole tour has smashed records across the country.

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#4447 Post by Goodsy » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:51 am

crawf wrote:
GoodSmackUp wrote:
[Shuz] wrote:Capacity isn't an issue?

Have you been under a rock? Adele's concert got 70,000, a stadium record. Which is 16,500 over capacity!
53,500 is the seated capacity. You can't sell tickets to stand on the grass during a footy game. They managed to squeeze 80,000 at AAMI for the Robbie Williams concert
Not sure if that's correct. The Adele concert is being reported as the biggest concert ever held in SA. The whole tour has smashed records across the country.
that's weird, it used to say 80,000 on footy parks Wikipedia page

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#4448 Post by crawf » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:13 pm

GoodSmackUp wrote: that's weird, it used to say 80,000 on footy parks Wikipedia page
There's your first problem ;)

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#4449 Post by Algernon » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:40 am

SRW wrote:Capacity isn't a real issue yet or soon - we can seat 53,500 and even Perth's new stadium is only 60,000. When it does become an issue, they can look at augmenting the the Western Stand. The Hill needn't and shouldn't be touched.
I agree it shouldn't be touched.

And as it stands, it needn't be touched. Sold out stadiums with membership waiting lists is the gold standard in world sport. The AFL teams get much higher $ per member compared to their Victorian counterparts because the sold out membership reduces churn rates and forces supporters to take up reserved seats.

If demand did warrant an expansion, a bid if, then I don't really buy that the hill needn't be touched. If you were to expand the ground and choose to build over the western stand instead of on the ground at the northern end then you would have the issue of choosing the highest cost option pressuring the margins on the tickets that are hardest to sell (selling the first 10k tickets it a lot easier than selling the next 10k after you have already sold 53k before).

The Oval is fine as is. Get to work on upgrading Hindmarsh for the sport played the most by people in the country.

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#4450 Post by Waewick » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:37 pm

Algernon wrote:
SRW wrote:Capacity isn't a real issue yet or soon - we can seat 53,500 and even Perth's new stadium is only 60,000. When it does become an issue, they can look at augmenting the the Western Stand. The Hill needn't and shouldn't be touched.

The Oval is fine as is. Get to work on upgrading Hindmarsh for the sport played the most by people in the country.
What's that got to do with Hindmarsh? Playing doesn't equal watching.



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#4451 Post by bits » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:33 am

Imagine all the massive grandstands we could install for the second most played sport, golf.

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#4452 Post by Llessur2002 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:44 am

bits wrote:Imagine all the massive grandstands we could install for the second most played sport, golf.
I, for one, won't rest until it is played at the Oval.

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#4453 Post by Waewick » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:55 pm

bits wrote:Imagine all the massive grandstands we could install for the second most played sport, golf.
what about Fishing!!!

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#4454 Post by crawf » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:04 pm

Waewick wrote:
bits wrote:Imagine all the massive grandstands we could install for the second most played sport, golf.
what about Fishing!!!
Lawn bowls would be pretty epic!

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#4455 Post by Hooligan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:01 pm

I never knew this until now, but I really want to go to a fishing stadium now.

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