News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5296 Post by PeFe » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:21 pm

Daniel Bowen (best known as the head of the Public Transport Users of Victoria) has published an article on train punctuality around the country. Adelaide does rather well.....thanks to the small network and lower frequency of trains.

https://www.danielbowen.com/2022/04/29/ ... australia/

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5297 Post by Pistol » Sat May 14, 2022 5:15 pm

Electric trains were testing on the Gawler line today. Was good to see finally!
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5298 Post by ChillyPhilly » Sun May 15, 2022 3:05 pm

Saw this on a diesel. New bars just inside the doors.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5299 Post by Jacob_ULG3 » Mon May 16, 2022 1:09 am

Just out of pure curiosity.

How many NEW electric trains are here?

I know 4023 and 4024 have entered service.

Is there a 4025-4034 sets or just 4023 and 4024 here at the moment of this post?

It's been a while since I've seen any posts or anything about new trains 4025 and above for several months.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5300 Post by Eurostar » Mon May 16, 2022 8:34 am

As far as the train/tram operations bring returned to public hands. SA State Budget is in June, if Labor and their legal team find a way to break the contract without having to hand KD/Torrens Connect money it'll be win-win. Whereas if its opposite whereby State Government need to pay KD/TC to get out of the contract it will get ugly and cuts will need to be made which won't look good to Labor.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5301 Post by PD2/20 » Mon May 16, 2022 9:45 am

Jacob_ULG3 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 1:09 am
Just out of pure curiosity.

How many NEW electric trains are here?

I know 4023 and 4024 have entered service.

Is there a 4025-4034 sets or just 4023 and 4024 here at the moment of this post?

It's been a while since I've seen any posts or anything about new trains 4025 and above for several months.
4025 has been delivered. Just after Easter I saw it in the Seaford depot yard. Shortly afterwards it was reported out testing.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5302 Post by PeFe » Tue May 17, 2022 3:37 pm

Electric train testing on the Gawler Line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZZT4XIeCA

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5303 Post by Pistol » Tue May 17, 2022 7:30 pm

PeFe wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 3:37 pm
Electric train testing on the Gawler Line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZZT4XIeCA
Geez there is a lot of rubbish on the track at Elizabeth station!!
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5304 Post by rubberman » Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:02 pm

Not much in the state budget.

The Port Dock extension is revived...over 5 years, lol. Plus a few minor station upgrades.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5305 Post by Llessur2002 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:20 pm

rubberman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:02 pm
Not much in the state budget.

The Port Dock extension is revived...over 5 years, lol. Plus a few minor station upgrades.
I'm not great with budget papers but it looks like the whole $51M is accounted for in the 22-23 and 23-24 estimates and completion is still expected by June 2024. Unless I'm missing something?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5306 Post by Norman » Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:01 am

Llessur2002 wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:20 pm
rubberman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:02 pm
Not much in the state budget.

The Port Dock extension is revived...over 5 years, lol. Plus a few minor station upgrades.
I'm not great with budget papers but it looks like the whole $51M is accounted for in the 22-23 and 23-24 estimates and completion is still expected by June 2024. Unless I'm missing something?
Yes, works will start in the upcoming financial year and will probably be finished around December next year.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5307 Post by rubberman » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:44 pm

Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:01 am
Llessur2002 wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:20 pm
rubberman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:02 pm
Not much in the state budget.

The Port Dock extension is revived...over 5 years, lol. Plus a few minor station upgrades.
I'm not great with budget papers but it looks like the whole $51M is accounted for in the 22-23 and 23-24 estimates and completion is still expected by June 2024. Unless I'm missing something?
Yes, works will start in the upcoming financial year and will probably be finished around December next year.
Hi, I can't say this without sounding cynical or sarcastic or patronising. I intend none of this.

However, look at the record of this and previous governments on delivering projects on the promised time frame.

On the basis of major projects in the past twenty years, have ANY been delivered on time? Any?

We are currently looking at the Gawler line electrification. Originally pledged to be finished by the end of 2020.

So. The people who gave us the Gawler electrification project...are saying June 2024. I say, based on the record, December at the earliest, and likely June 2025 ot later.

Shall we have a bet on a beer on whether it happens by June 2024? I offer you a carton of your favourite beer as the stake if I am wrong, vs a pint if I am right. Care to place a bet?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5308 Post by Cryptic » Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:58 pm

rubberman wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:44 pm
Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:01 am
Llessur2002 wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:20 pm


I'm not great with budget papers but it looks like the whole $51M is accounted for in the 22-23 and 23-24 estimates and completion is still expected by June 2024. Unless I'm missing something?
Yes, works will start in the upcoming financial year and will probably be finished around December next year.
Hi, I can't say this without sounding cynical or sarcastic or patronising. I intend none of this.

However, look at the record of this and previous governments on delivering projects on the promised time frame.

On the basis of major projects in the past twenty years, have ANY been delivered on time? Any?

We are currently looking at the Gawler line electrification. Originally pledged to be finished by the end of 2020.

So. The people who gave us the Gawler electrification project...are saying June 2024. I say, based on the record, December at the earliest, and likely June 2025 ot later.

Shall we have a bet on a beer on whether it happens by June 2024? I offer you a carton of your favourite beer as the stake if I am wrong, vs a pint if I am right. Care to place a bet?
Regency to Pym was finished under budget and ahead of schedule and T2T was under budget and extended, and it was finished on time.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5309 Post by rubberman » Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:02 pm

Cryptic wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:58 pm
rubberman wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:44 pm
Norman wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:01 am

Yes, works will start in the upcoming financial year and will probably be finished around December next year.
Hi, I can't say this without sounding cynical or sarcastic or patronising. I intend none of this.

However, look at the record of this and previous governments on delivering projects on the promised time frame.

On the basis of major projects in the past twenty years, have ANY been delivered on time? Any?

We are currently looking at the Gawler line electrification. Originally pledged to be finished by the end of 2020.

So. The people who gave us the Gawler electrification project...are saying June 2024. I say, based on the record, December at the earliest, and likely June 2025 ot later.

Shall we have a bet on a beer on whether it happens by June 2024? I offer you a carton of your favourite beer as the stake if I am wrong, vs a pint if I am right. Care to place a bet?
Regency to Pym was finished under budget and ahead of schedule and T2T was under budget and extended, and it was finished on time.
Those are just parts of an existing project. They weren't one-offs started from zero.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#5310 Post by Furyan » Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:38 pm

55.1 million for future rail projects in SA?
Sydney are expanding their rail at a cost of 50 - 60 BILLION. If that amount of money was converted to a per capita basis it would allow us to build both an underground CBD rail link and underground rail to Mt Barker at the same time. Even though practically both projects would most likely be staggered.
Perhaps once we finish building hospitals our rail infrastructure can start to catch up with the rest of Australia.

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