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#811 Post by ricecrackers » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:36 pm

i think the colour of the seats looks ok
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#812 Post by Mants » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:55 pm

Pants wrote:Great photos. Thanks!

The seats could really make or break this thing and it doesn't look good so far. A lighter green, as expected from the Advertiser article, would've been much more subtle to let the stands do the talking. At least they should mix it up within sections and have a few random lighter colours thrown in for interest. AAMI Park in Melbourne is a great eg of a well designed stadium being let down by seating colour choice. It's early days for this stand of course, but I hope the finished product doesn't have the same effect.
IMO it doesn't really matter, because when most people see it, it will be full of people.

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#813 Post by Tyler_Durden » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:00 am

Paulns wrote:This is what I have been arguing about for ages on this site.
Good luck finding someone to arue with on that point. I think that's something everone can agree on.

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#814 Post by Paulns » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:22 pm

Tyler_Durden wrote:Good luck finding someone to arue with on that point. I think that's something everone can agree on.


Ohh yeah well theres plenty of nimbys in this town that would agree to disagree too.
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#815 Post by ginger-geordie » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:53 pm

the adelaide oval project sounds great, but when are they going to give it the all clear, and when will they start building it?

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#816 Post by rev » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:20 pm

Sorry to drag up the WC thing again, but I was looking at the Australiabid.com.au site for the WC, and under the stadiums list the Adelaide Oval pitch looks rather rectangular.

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I'm baffled as to how it's going to be rectangular, when from current photos we have seen, it's actually become more of an oval shape. :?

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#817 Post by Pants » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:50 pm

Temp seats.

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#818 Post by Just build it » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:29 am

I wonder whether AO's lighting would be up to FIFA WC future HD/3D broadcast standards? They're very strict these days I believe.

Personally I think that the AO lights are already pretty ordinary regarding shadowing etc but maybe it's just my eyes. :shock:

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#819 Post by Kasey771 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:40 am

Pants wrote:Temp seats.
I don't believe so, I think the AOSMA just believe they can offer up an AFL oval and get it past FIFA. Having watched Australia vs Ghana at Rustenburg in RSA, I'm pretty sure the distance from the pitch caused by the running track at Royal Bafokeng would be at or about the same distance as the fully redeveloped AO. Football specific legacy will not come in the way of the 'big' stadiums, I think we are many years away from(if ever) filling big stadiums for national league club games, the legacy items will IMO be the improved facilities that WC Nations use for training purposes and the massive boost to the profile of the sport in the 12 years leading up to the event should we win the rights to host it. Maybe when the AO-SMA talk about FIFA complience and weaseling somecon out of the Feds for it, they mean to upgrade the lighting situation rather than alter the shape of the seating bowl. Certainly no indications have been even hinted at that the Foody & cricket heads running the SMA have even thought about using the AO for anything other than foody & cricket. world football/Rugby/RL is an afterthought at best and and an anoyance at worst for the SMA.
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#820 Post by mattblack » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:11 pm

Pants wrote:Great photos. Thanks!

The seats could really make or break this thing and it doesn't look good so far. A lighter green, as expected from the Advertiser article, would've been much more subtle to let the stands do the talking. At least they should mix it up within sections and have a few random lighter colours thrown in for interest. AAMI Park in Melbourne is a great eg of a well designed stadium being let down by seating colour choice. It's early days for this stand of course, but I hope the finished product doesn't have the same effect.
The Northern and Southern most ends of the stand will be entirely green and the middle section will be entirely burgundy.

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#821 Post by Kasey771 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:47 pm

I just posted this in the construction thread but thought I'd delete it and post here instead:

Apparently the seats in the most northeryly and southerly of the Western stand bays are to be the light green colour with the centre bay in burgundy..I responded to this with:

Did you go to the SMA meeting last night?(Due to work I couldn't make it:( )Differentiating the 'best' seats with burgundy seats, ala the MCC Members reseve at the MCG souns like it could work visually, I'll be in town on Friday, I hope to take more pics friday arvo, only one week since my last visit, not expecting huge progress.


I noticed that http://www.adelaideovalredevelopment.com.au has gone live.
I scoured it for info regarding FIFA complience and the seming exclusion of the other codes of football from the info presented - I'll reprint my email below andany response should it actually appear in my inbox - very sceptical that I'll get a reply:(

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to whom it may concern,

Unfortunately due to work I was unable to attend last night's SMA information meeting. I have scoured the new redevelopment website but cannot find any information on how you intend to ensure this new stadium (which as a SACA member I support) will be compliant with FIFA regulations should Australia win the right to host the World Cup. Even failing in that bid, a FIFA compliant stadium would allow the FFA to finally schedule a Senior Socceroos game in Adelaide. If the facility is good enough for FIFA, I would imagine it would be more than good enough for the ARU to schedule a Wallabies Test in Adelaide. Or as the board is only made up of people from the Australian Football and Cricket communities, have you forgotten all about this aspect? Surely to be World Class venue, the new Adelaide Oval must be capable of hosting more than 2 sports with spectators having an enjoyable experience. I have attended Socceroos games in Melbourne at the MCG and I have to say the sightlines and distance from the field of play made it a terrible experience. I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter,

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#822 Post by Waewick » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:11 pm

I look forward to hearing the response.

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#823 Post by Pants » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:20 pm

Bad news.

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#824 Post by Kasey771 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:25 pm

capitalist wrote:I look forward to hearing the response.
I'll be pissed & amazed if I get one, but you can be sure I'll post it here should a miracle occur and they do answer what to them is probably "A difficult question" :wallbash:
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#825 Post by ghs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:55 pm

Those seats look ok to me.

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